Yeah Exactly Bro And Now We have changed the way as wellNow If someone ask me who are you I Say CHAMAR hu bhai .Its makes me feel proud and also make their mouth shutSo This is the best way to end the Castism if you cant remove it so just make your caste as stronger that other will remove it selfly, punia in haryana belog to chamar caste as p.l.punia (i.a.s. SAB KUDA DE BANDE BHAVE MANDE WA CHANGE . He is deluded again about this false heritage. The hindu organisations and rallied against the bill when it was going through Parliament citing no caste discrimination in the UK. They became scattered and the modern day romany or gypsies are the decendants of the Jatts. It was formerly used as a title by Rajput kings, and later developed into a surname. use mind . I dont believe in caste but I try to love everyone. Matter of fact is that with changing time, across India, you will find the surnames and title being used by all the castes as per convenience more than anything to do with their occupation. it will make u comfertable and they too would take it easily after practising. Avantivarman was a Chamar[6][7] king who founded the Utpala dynasty. Furthermore he said Manyo na sikh unko jo jaat paat ki reet chalavey jehrha; manyo sikh unko jo jaat paat ko mateve jehrha. Please contribute to this website to improve the quality and allow for it to expand and grow. Account No. nice to see this awesome website of our community. Momis are known as agriculturists and land owners in Punjab, who belong to Kamboj caste. We are all one x, Voice of a sane person. Read what the Guru Granth Sahib and the Gurus say on the subject. Marrying jatts has been traditional for us Im 23 years old and will marry jatt family only not to put down any other group but its just how my family does things. I also belong to you chamar community and not ashamed but respect my Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. Sikhism come from us , dont give fuck about sikhs. Classical example the chauhans or chohans. No there not dumbass. http:/singhstation.net/2020/05/australian-sikhs-demand-probe-into-caste-based-discrimination-amrit-sanchar/, agreed but I do not like you disrespecting dogs, they are more pure than all of us, Jai se bhagwan ne gadhe ko bahut murkh ur saktihin banaya ur jai se sher ko bahut taktwar ur chalak banaya hai ussi prakar bhawan ne chamar ko ashudh caste banaya hai jo upper caste ki seva kar sake bhagwan ne kisi ko equall nahi banaya hai, Bhai tu kon se jaat ka hai aur hai kya jobtere koi sewa karega?? If you will respect other caste/religion, they will regard. It was only a few decades ago that YOUR jatt sikh ancestors were beating and killing chamars for entering your sikh temples. Rawal was originally used as a first name in parts of Gujarat and Rajasthan. It was converted to the 1st Battalion and later disbanded shortly after World War II ended. Yogendra Singhji thank you for your intellectual contribution here about what happened to our people and how they came to be subjugated eventually by the foreign invader aryans and how they took all our human rights away reduced us to what Guru Ravidass says , jaat kamini path kamini oucha janama humara (ie reduced us to low caste/untouchables and took all our self respect and honour and made our existence as human beings as worthless), legal and religious disabilities were imposed conceived by evil and racist aryans, the Brahmin ancesters. 0081001500006681 I belong to chamar category . I ll be really thankful if u ll answer my query..plz make it fast its really urgent ..please, yes,NAR is a sub caste of chamars. max. Religious and social ceremonies practised in poor societies and tribals are different from claimed to be of Hindus. There are a lot of Majra or a Majara villages in Punjab named after agricultural workers .It was only after Baba Banda Singh Bahadur who destroyed Sirhind that land titles were given to the tillers . up. Hmne pta hai ki sbb equal hai. Maharashtra's mahar caste is the include in s.c.category sr.no.37 out of caste list of 59 caste list.Why Punjab govt.not understand mahar caste is the s . You are the one who is ignorant, backward, with dirty mind and hypocrite. Manister of state Ashu ji. If we check population cessus before 1931 jatts have been mentioned as Sudras. Jatav Veer Mahasabha, an association of Jatav men founded in 1917, published multiple pamphlets making such claims in the first half of the 20th century. India's population speaks a wide variety of languages and nearly every major religion in the world has a following in India. You will be shocked by the truth. Most of the Dhusia in Punjab and Haryana migrated from Pakistan after partition of India. You guys are saying disregard the caste system but the only reason you have these last names is cause your sorry ass people were ashamed of their caste and wanted to feel higher. Bhagat Ravidas Ji in the GGSJ had challenged Hindu society, Hindu priests, and Hindu maharajas. There is something known as History(the kind of english you have written I can very well relate how much you would have known your own history, forget ours), read it first before commenting such things. chamaar caste is related to sikhism chmaar is a sikh but chmaar caste people not accept chmaar caste people liked hindu guru but chmaar caste real guru granth sahib ji. INSTEAD OF LYING, YOU WILL SPEAK THE TRUTH. Well, I respect what youre saying, and no Im not hindu, Im from a 100% Sikh family but I wont claim to be a real Sikh as Im not very religious. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Im-chamar-and-im-proud-of-being-so/103545543080725?skip_nax_wizard=true. my surname lagah..plz add this surname.jai guru ravidaas. As a Sikh this is all useless to me but Im sure as Hindu which I believe you are, there is nothing wrong you believing in surname and caste. All chamar are not the same. So dont try to relate yourselves to us Sikhs. All those people who work were classified as Sudras . u may not have created this. mar jao is gall nalu abbu badal liya j. Jai gurudev Im from ravidasia koam my surname bhoondpal its nd we are going our religion village himey distt.. banga bt I dnt get here my surname why.. nd our surname same jathere in kukar pind distt. You will one day wake up and realise that Jattism and Brahminism are the same. Thanks. Be proud to be Sikh. it will help all the chamar family of haryana to tell their caste to other with proud and other casts respects the chamar community. Oh Brahmin if you are born of Brahma, ie God, then why were you not born differently (from us). Miss Pooja makes a song and we all get excited. .myself sarang chahal . Your contribution proves you are a village idiot. These rules and regulations are illustrated in The Laws of Manu, Mahabharta, and Ramayan and other holy hindu books. You are so primitive. Thanks for contributing. This comment is illegal to post. It should never have been the case. Mahatma Gandhi, Dr.B.R.Ambedkar, Nelson Mandela but to mention a few achieved change for man kind. Kunda l is also a sub caste of Chamar Biradari. can u add (samplay) name . there is all the dalits soliders in the gurus period .but now present time the some clever people all are called the guru granth sahib is only our holy book .. those people says its own but those not believe it.. puthe tanngg dite jede bolde c bahute.. Mr Rahul Guru Granth Sahib Ji is pure, truthful bani, we respect and honour it and BELIEVE in it. shilawat Like the particular UN55B8000, it even offers a Content material This surname occurs mostly in Asia, where 98 percent of Chamar live; 97 percent live in South Asia and 96 percent live in Indo-South Asia. I am merely pointing out the reasons why. They started a revolution to help the low castes to break away the shakles of the caste sytem. Dr. B. R. Ambedkar ke rule chate h jo padai karega vo aage badega chaye chamar ho chahe tum jaise chhoti soch vale ho argue karne se achha h tum sab higher education lo apni time ko utilized karo ek duse ko nicha dikhne se kuch ni hoga, Akal to tum logo ko hi di bhagwan ne, tabhi to insaan ko insaan nahin samajhta. Jamdade. Ive met some f#k#d ppl in my life but this twat has topped it, he thinks that surnames belong to jatt only. Try it. Kisi real me needy k liye wo seats chhode. Nagar Kirtan Invitation 2010 Sorry to see that the truth hurt you so much. Najardhane. 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Jatt dont mention caste??! They take every famous caste to be their own. It is a hybread race with combination of many type of dirty blood. pandu was never designated brahmin though s/o brahmin . It is one of the common surnames among Indian Brahmins. Banke Chamar is freedom fighter and Rebellion of 1857 first independence revolt of India. It is discrimination. October 31, 2020 at 11:09 pm . . Ive seen people get so upset over caste even over here in Western countries where it doesnt even exist. 0 gadget.Samsung UN46B7000If youre concerned with your electrical power consumption, you may put your own worries in order to rest because of this Samsung TV SET, which is very energy-efficient. I have a Jat friends who call themselves as Jat Sikhs. you might always adjust the display quality through her numerous image controls which have been laid out inside Destroy and attack caste system in Jaatpaatstan(India) now!!!!!!!!!! Punjab National Bank, Us sikhs that are ravidassia sikhs dont want our children and youth to be confused by ppl who have no knowledge of Guru Granth Sahib Ji and no respect for Sikhism. Im a Jatt and its the 1st time I read something that said it how it is i am proud of our caste . you cannot always. vycnievajuca hrudna kost support@missionbadlaav.com; closest city to glacier national park Menu. Lol look at u fools. industrial minister of haryana).punia also jat bisnoi. 5 Kler, Please add few more as Punia, Daroch, Atwal, Nalwati, Chunbuk, Chahal, Chalia, Berwal, Bodwal, Tanwar. Dr. B.R. Impact of reservation to all such well going family is that poor family children not selected and not able to get reservation so if All SC/SC/OBC family want the benefit of their poor family than they should initiate charity coaching to such family and leave the reservation by weldoing family for their children, otherwise we would not be able to uplift the really needy family of SC/ST/OBC. Since some people adopted occupations other than their majority community or they were excommunicated from their community but they continued to bear the same gotra as it does not change with adoption of their new religion or caste . In gods eyes we equal. Nar gotra belongs to chamars.About 6000 b.. Add Jaijania,Kataria & Dhirana to your list and plese remove tohse abusing posts from site.Thanx. Its not going to happen. First one was to satisfy the hunger of body (for food) and second langar was to act as platform for social change. Our sikh Gurus & Bhagats have sacrificed all their lives to unite us all together, Bhagat ravidas Ji gave his bani to guru Nanak dev Ji to be included in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji, why dont these Dera Ballan Authorities respect that and also be proud sikhs. Jai Hind, Jai Guru Ravidas Ji. In the past, Chamar had shared better relationship with the Pasis, another Dalit caste. District officers have been ordered to issue Caste Certificate to the families of those belonging to these 17 castes. Our surnames are same and similar and too common hence why we dispute they belong to me or you. He has clearly elucidated his very well considered point of view. You people are moving away from Guru Granth Sahib Ji and following politics, in 21st century still looking for identity, when our gurus made us one and equal. Caste system is the root of all evil, especially in India , Johal and Sidhu arent Chamar they are Jatt, This site has very much wrong information, Dabi is not a chamar . . Its display quality is far more dazzling, though, with dark levels they n their issues made rules in the interst of the huminity /society . former DIG haryana police, STUPIDS As SHRI GURUGRANTH SAHIB JIsay tha there is no caste in sikhism. Hello everybody! but then comes conversion and beliefs . You will be proud and pleased to read the history of Chamar. Account No. Then you also proceed to say that as a result of reservation, the scheduled castes have taken advantage of this power ,causing them to increase corruption threefold. Sharma. The oppression however was not fully stopped as the friction between upper-caste landlords and the tillers continued. Bhatia 2. So you will see a Sikh doing sewa and keeping the shoes of incomign sangat in gurudwara or washing the utensils in gurudwara. The reason you guys have these last names is because so many adopted the last names of the higher castes in the villages, so yes, Chamars can have these last names, but you should NOT post them here because they are NO WAY IN HELL of Chamar heritage, they are of Jatt heritage. treated them like brothers and sisters. (1) Where the list of Scheduled Castes or Scheduled Tribes in Determina" relation t.o any State is varied by this Act, the. It is promoting the caste system with all its ugliness. Ham toh rajput hai hamare pass kayee safe sadhan tha background achha hai hamare sath bhedbhav bhi no hota . Please educate yourself before asking people to get their facts right. Meri jaat kamini paat kamini osha janam hamara !! constituition rights he justice lekin sc k pas koi poor ja sakta he? Profile. please add sharma..i am sharma and chamar, Hame garv hai ki ham des k chavar vansh se hai, Hame garv hai ki ham des k chavar vansh se hai.chavar vansh prachin kal me bharat me raj karta tha hamara videsi manuvadi se sangharsh huaa hamane aasani se ghutane nhi teke lekin ant me hamari haar huyi. Yaha blog me likhne ki himmat hai bas kisi chamar k saamne bol ke bata fir dekh kaisi sewa hoti teri, teri maa dea lun kteeda tu saliya punjab a teri bund paad diyange saliya kuttiyaese krke tusi musliya ton bund kutone a sala dulla bhainchod, Beta ab sach bata tum chamar se chidte kyu ho kyuki tumhare purvajo se tumne seekha tha ye cast badi ye chotti or ab jab vahi chotti cast goverment jobs me har jangah tumse aage hote haii tumhe chamar ko salute marna padta usko namaste krni padti chamar k aage jhukna pad raha hai islie rona hai tumhe :p lol verna beta ho kya tum kali kali shakal wale chamar se kahi bhi to aage nahi ho tum :3 moke pe chamar ki tatti tak khaloge tum, Kiya janam se tumhare maathe ya peeth par bhagwan ne koi stamp lgakr bheja hai kiya.ki tum bhraman hai ya jaati ka naam likhkr janam liya hai, ya blood ka Color red ke alawa or ho tujhme color ka blood bta aise bolne se koI mahan ni banta mahan banta hai achhi soch se bhagwan ne sabko ek samaan bnaya hai is liye likhne se pehle soch smjhkr likhna chahiye, stfu moron LOL just cause youre a chamar youre gonna be talking shit on jatts! Bassan I am Gourav Jaijania,i am also a chamar and i am proud of that.My surname is jaijania also add it to your list. brahmin married sudra biash born . This is absolute rubbish because they cannot be bothered to find out why they share some surnames. Leave him alone. Question is not against the reservation but question is the SC/ST/OBC candidate who got selected in top job having salary/package more than 10lack than what facility/environment they can not provide to their children which other General Caste children of all including poor got but SC/ST/OBC all officer/rich family children still getting resrvation. hey buddy i think you got some wrong surname in this community.Even I belong this community but still i searched a lot about some jat names like sandhu,sidhu,chawla,chopra,bhatti,saraoand johal whosoever you are but you are taking them wrong as they belong to jatt sikh. Toh bhaiyo apni soch badlo aap sab padhe likhe ho. Bhatkar. thank you Your mind can only be washed free if you accept the truth in the same way as Guru Nanak found the truth. Therefore, a humble appeal is being made to all the respected social people that those who want to cooperate in the said construction work can give according to their ability, along with all the donors must give their photo along with their name and present place of residence so that social Your photo along with name and place of residence can be broadcast in the magazine. We dont need to do that and I dont think there is single chamar out there who would do that. Its Hindu Brahmin sirname! im Jatav related to shurdh group many of clans of jatav are rathore ,kuril, punia raidash jatia kashyap shindhe makwal & some others clans etc. What is in a name that is given to you at birth if you can not use it wisely. Klair surname is a Jatt surname and does not belong to any community other than Sache Pasha himself ! Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. in fact none is superior or inferior by birth but deeds make him so . please also add Bhatoa ,as it is a chamar surname. dhang ka ipc nhi samajhta police ko at apne aap ko sahab bulate he. Tum general walo ke paas to padai ke sab sadhan hote hai ayr pese bhi. every single jatt is not brave and strong . Mother India! one time stand infront of mirror and ask yourself u r a jatt or chamaar or etc. 75 % kota genral walea da aaa .jisne kuch krna usne 75% mein sb kuj kr lena .aur jisne kuch ni krna usse 25% mein kuch ni krna..aur baat krte ho rsvartions ki 25% kota sc st hena.jino 25% mein kuch ni kr skte wo 75% mein b kuch ni kr skte.jihna ne kuch krna hunda na oh cast ni dekhde na resrvationssrf apne goal val thyan dinde t aaa t ohnu but overall average they considered hard worker, brave and open hearted . She has moved on but you are still stuck in the past and harbour toxic sentimentality. People can tell what caste you are by looking at .. ie mannerism, way of speaking, appearance etc. ULLU KE PATHE TUJHE JYADA PTA HAI KI BO KAISE RHTE HAI YAA NHI . Vinod Kumar No matter what, if traced back to the their origins these are all JATT last names. You are all equal. (LogOut/ Brother, my dad said his father belongs to punjab brahmin caste. Holy palace of Gotra bhatoa is situated at Pandoga ,Distt UNA in HP. and i also luv chamars..instead of thinking that i m rajput. While u neef reservation in jobs nd admissions. All India Saint Shiromani Ravidas Samaj Vikas Samiti Betul District Betul. even general category has a lot of poor ppl who hav no means. ||3|| (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Page 459), , , , , . I myself dont exactly agree with this article as it is promoting the caste system, but there is no need to be so rude. Fir tum sab general log kyo nahi I.P.S aur I.S bante ho. These Dera Ballan authorities are trying to brainwash the community that this is not the case, how sick are they. I knew a guy whose last name was Chahal and I always thought that he is a Punjabi Jutt . I have known a chamar pretending to be a Sandhu.A small conversation and it all came out as expected.Another chamar,very educated due to the reservation system always made friends with Jats or Brahmins.Next thing you know he puts Sharma on the end of his name.He began to believe his own hype until he tried to get married in a hindu mandhir.So the same here.To repeat Johal,Sahota,Sandhu,Virk are all Jat names no question.No shared with anybody else.If Jats are secure in their own identityit does not mean they look down on anybody else.Its not our job to buoy chamars up.Its the Indian govt who trod on you.Its the hindu religion who tarred you.Leave Jats and Sikhism out of your gripe. If you are from the UK caste based discrimination has been outlawed by British Parliament under section 9(5)(a) of the Equality Act 2010 that has made caste an aspect of race. Mobile Number 91 + 9407521386 Add more surname A am a chumar n have always had jatt friends, I have never felt my caste was an issue for them as they follow sikhi n Sikhism is all about eradicating caste systems. Ambekar. The struggle isnt over, there are still hurdles we must overcome. . Besides soon castes will be things of the past. All this caste names busines is total rubbish. (LogOut/ All of Indias social,economic,political , religious and cultural ills have their roots in brahminism.Only when it is destroyed will India be able to take a respectable place along with civilised nations we all admire. Saalo chamaro kahin ja ke marr jaoSaare jaato ko apni list me shamil kar liya ..Agar jaat banne ka itna hi shonk hai ,,,to apni ma ko bolo kisi jaat ke paas jaya kare,,,,,,,,,,. when i fill the online form to apply for govt job exam online then there is no ravidassia dharm is occuers and when i fill the others options then i did not occured in reservation, what is solution .????? 5.Boparai Once you do this no one will ever dare to discriminate or abuse you. MARRIGE IS PIOUS CERMONEY when we take of 4 gotra ie 1self 2mother 3grand mother 4 nani so no honest person shall steal gotra if any one does so only clever, cheater,begger,shirker and who had been flattering n fooling /sucking blood of others. Lahane. Ye bilkul sahi bate kahi hein app ne . Guru Nanak and his successors mission is dying because Sikhism is in the hands of castes that are not interested in his mission but have turned it into politics and business for jatts benefit. But, the tussle between the Marxists and the proprietors was not divided on caste lines, as some of . Most commonly observed among Punjabis, Khatris also are Jaat's. If Bhagat Ravidas Ji was here today he would be angry upset that people have made a religion on his name. Reservation Percentage i Gujarat. We come alone and will go alone. Proud to be chamar. Well, have fun stealing our last names you ugly shits, just by looking at your faces, we can tell whether or not that last name really belongs to you. Yes,bhatti is a chamar surname becuse i have relations who are bhattis and there are chamars as myself. Lakin ye log samjhane ko tayer nahi hein.me bhi chamar caste se belong karti hu and I am proud that I am a chamar because hamere guru saint siromani ravidas ji hein.pata nahi ye log kab sudhrege, Thpd m gadjaga bhut bol lia chup hoja ib jhukna pdega bhla tu h anpad gwar t teri soch ni 1970 ki. God can not give with his hand as we are the hands of God! India is for all castes we come from the same land, flag and when India does well we all feel much better. Guru Ravidass Shakti Amar Rahe, Bassan surname is Ramgarhia, jathere at pind Chama near Tanda, Jila Hoshiarpur, but as people in this world are so knowledgeable, anything can be stated and taken as gospel. Baba saheb dr b r ambedkar THE GREATEST INDIAN elected after 65years since 1948 when BAPU was killed by brahmin n r godse. Thank you for the interesting story. We should all live together in love and humility. Jai bhim jai chamar jai chawarvansh jai chamar devta ki, Julaha chamar chure will always be low! Gholap. 2. Karra has been added to the list. u people see only sandhu as jatt? Julana distt jind.i m graduate in pharmacy. However, when very low caste sikhs migrated to countries such as the US, Canada and the UK, they thought of it as a chance to start a clean slate where people would not be able to identify their caste. The emancipation of the poor and vulnerable is the single most important problem that needs addressing in the world today, when the weak grow strong, only then will the atrocities and injustices in the world cease. thanx. I am very proud on my caste. We know all the games the brahmins have been playing against the low castes of India, who form 85% of Indias population. These words are expected only from Just Animal Type (JAT) people since you do not know about your race whether it from Hoon, Kushan, Mangol or Turk. We all should work and propagate to reclaim lost boundaries falling within these great rivers. : Ugly ass dark weaklings who cant fight for shit. 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